8 Oct TAKAMATSUDEN: Gikan Ryu Koppojutsu. (Information required.) Hi everyone. I am investigating about Gikan-ryu and I have two sources: One. Togakure Ryu Tonkojutsu Takamatsuden – Free download as PDF File .pdf), Text File .txt) or read online for free. 10 Apr Hello Everyone, I would like to pose a question for everyone within the different org’s. How many of you have been taught the various Kuden.

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HissatsuApr 16, Ever been to a Ninja show in Japan? January, Second year of Engen, together with his brother in Kenta, passed away. This Gikan-ryu is a quite mistery.

May 7, HI Gary Nice post but its the same old questions and comments being said and asked over and over again for the past 20 years.

I believe that fakamatsuden is thaught at the Jinenkan. I believe that “the why” have to be with the Genbukan’s Gikan-ryu video you show us.

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Originally Posted by Oniwaban. I mean, because if Bujinkan shows to much of Gikan-ryu some Togakure’s skeletons could be discovered. Thank you all for posting.

Originally Posted by Troy Wideman. Look how they established that Ishitani existed but they do not relate him with Takamatsu Toshitsugu. Ur AnaiteApr 16, Everyone is supposed to keep their mouth shut? Apr 15, After this, we have the fact that Tanemura Shoto sued Masaaki Hatsumi and the court established that he Takamatsu is the current Soke of this Ryu-ha, so Hatsumi do not teach it any more.

Hi Greg, Chris answered it quite eloquently. By other side there is some text about that nobody can confirm Ishitani’s existence, the Kuki family never met him so this could put the Takamatsu’s teachers group from three to just one: I really do not know anything about Gikan-ryu, so I will appreciate your considerations about this.

Asking on bullshido, where there is a majority off people that have a disdain for the Takamatsu den will probably not get you very far.

TAKAMATSUDEN: Gikan Ryu Koppojutsu. (Information required.)

But again, the Gikan-ryu mystery still: Did you find a local map of Kobe city yet? Well, outside that video are not much more about it. You must log in or sign up to reply here. The Legitimacy of Takamatsuden.

Kuden Sections of the Takamatsu den ryu ha!

But this is the book: Take Gyokko ryu, Koto Ryu for example, where did the techniques come from? But unfortunately as time has gone on over the last 23 years of my study several things have come to light which I myself am highly skeptical about and I feel I have to raise them here.

Within the Jinenkan, the Ryu are a much higher focus, but I haven’t takammatsuden across any talk with any members of much beyond what was written in the Densho that Manaka received from Hatsumi. Gyokko ryu densho takamatsuden bookspdf, Length: Examine the kata of the ninpo ryu-ha I mean, focus on gyokko ryu, koto ryu, etc.

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I’ll see if I can grab takamstsuden copy of this soon. Apr 13, 8. If you check the Bugei Ryu-ha Daijiten it mentions one line passing through Ishitani Sensei but no Mizuta is mentioned there I takamatsuden if it had to do something with a space issue.

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I would suggest you ask nicely on E-budo, Takamatsu den. Also, and this is entirely my opinion, the Five Precepts the we are told were written by Toda on New years day – whoever wrote those was, in my view, clearly influenced by Emperor Meiji’s Imperial Rescript on Education.

His research is flawed from the very beginning. Hi Leif, When you talk about learning the kuden of Koto Ryu and Kukishin Ryu Bikenjutsu, are you talking about the kuden of the different kata? Hi Chris no, it was the kuden sections of koto ryu and kukishin ryu biken.

What do you think or got about Gikan-ryu? Now takqmatsuden seems to me that we have some 15 dans saying thatthe basics are important -gyokko ryu, forms etc, and explaining that these must be the foundation of your training in these arts, also that good hard training in them is needed, that to many high ranks are in need of these thingssome are even now re teaching tenchijin manual again, I never did see anyone back in old days being soft as they are today, if you don’t feel pain or takamattsuden hit firmlythen how are you going to learn to move?

Hi Chris, You can read all about it here: Takamatsudwn would seem a lot of ppl claim to teach all 9schools of the bujinkan, I still don’t think hatsum I has shown them all yet -giken ryu etc, I would go as to say a lot of ppl claiming such things as they are teaching the whole 9 schools are fooling themselves and lying to their students, don’t they NOW study bujinkan taijutsuvery little to do with the original ryu or 9 schools, isn’t tqkamatsuden argued that they have moved on from that past teaching into what it is no days, that is a combination of many different teachings and how hatsumi trains in themas he has said many timeshe does not teachand isn’t it said by many that “we don’t train like the old daysold ryu’swe now do this cos it is betterand we have been told its better for us, please don’t takamatuden this as we knowwe’ve been toldok.

May 9, Kuden Sections of the Takamatsu takamateuden ryu ha! It does seem a pity for anyone joining the organisation later, though